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Beitragvon deep_thought » Sa 12.Feb 2005, 13:27

Nur noch soviel zu Demoniciduth: zuerst mal ich kenne Tanaak persönlich, er ist ganz OK. Er hat auch ein brennendes Herz für Jesus, was ich cool finde. Allerdings hat er zu gewissen Themen eine etwas spezielle Meinung, und gerade deshalb haben sie auch bei vielen Christen in der Szene einen schlechten Ruf. Wenn er halt in irgendwelchen Gästebücher (auch von christlichen Bands) solche Dinge schreibt wie "Bush ist der von Gott eingesetzte Herscher über die USA, der von Gott den Auftrag bekam, den bösen Irak anzugreifen" etc., dann ist es klar, dass ihn einige nicht ernst nehmen (egal ob man pro oder gegen Bush ist). Und das war eher noch eine der harmloseren Aussagen. Und gerade solche Aussagen werden von der Szene dann als christlich angesehen, sodass man die Christen erst recht abstempelt. Entsprechend kann man so viel kaputt machen, aber er sieht es nicht wirklich ein.
BTW: ohne jetzt einen Namen zu nennen (es ist jemand bekanntes), hat mir mal jemand aus der Szene gesagt, dass gerade demoniciduth einiges an Arbeit kaputt gemacht haben, Vorurteile der Blackmetaller gegen Christen abzubauen. Meist heisst es denn nicht, demoniciduth ist die Ausnahme, sondern wir, die da anders denken und handeln...
"Preach the gospel, and, if necessary, use words"
(Undercover, nach Zitat von Thomas von Aquin)
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Beitragvon Winterfrost » Sa 12.Feb 2005, 15:06

Sollten diese Leute aber nicht irgendwie unterscheiden können, dass da Demoniciduth spricht und nicht die Christenheit?
Und ausserdem ist Demoniciduth doch eher unbekannt, so viel ich weiss?
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Beitragvon Michi » So 20.Feb 2005, 20:28

zitate aus dem schwarzmetall forum:

von der ideologie derselbe schrott wie diese welsche pro-christian-band


...wenn ich auf eine blackmetal-band aus dem kanton VD stosse, http://demoniciduth.cjb.net/, und dann auf ihrer page sehe, dass sie auf fotos mit judenfähnen possieren dann stellt es mir eindeutig ab...



Demoniciduth <--------- soll das ein witz sein? wenn ich sowas sehe krieg ich wallungen ...
auf den pics tragen sie alle corpsepaint und in den mp3's wird gekreischt was das zeug hält, verdammtes elendes saupack, soll gefälligst im morgenmantel und sandalen musik machen und sich ne dornenkrone in den arsch klemmen ...

hier geht es aber ungerecht zu! der babyspeck und der nicht vorhandene bartwuchs der in ihrer selbstüberschätzung wahrlich heldenhaften gotteskrieger deuten doch eindrücklich darauf hin, dass ihr lebensalter noch nicht die magische 13 überschritten hat. waren wir in diesem alter nicht alle ein wenig naiv, verblendet und beschränkt, und hat nicht ein jeder das recht dazu? lasst sie doch erst einmal ihre wohlbehütete kindheit und jugend beenden, ihr kostenloses gemütliches zimmer im hotel "mama" verlassen und ins wirkliche leben eintreten. bis dahin: licht und liebe!



*prust* Ist ja hammer das Corpsepaint ....


so viel zu demonicitduth und nicht-christen :roll:
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Beitragvon Shamgar » So 20.Feb 2005, 20:32

die page und das cp kommt schon voll schräg rein. allerdings kommen mir auch so super-true-evil-satan seiten gar nicht gut!
Stell dir vor, Black Metal ist Krieg und keiner geht hin.
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Vision.

Beitragvon Taanak » Do 10.Mär 2005, 19:54

Hi,
This is Taanak from Demoniciduth. I took the time to read about your opinions, critics, etc. I made a translation as I don't know German. I am ok concerning the images with the corpse-paint, they were quite ridiculous, but it was in 2001 & we're in 2005. But the thing is that we never thought that people could attach importance to a look. Personally, when I see most of the secular bands wearing corpse-paint, having axes in their hands... They're as un-muscled that it seems like it's a big effort for them to hold the axe in their hands, but well...

We're now in 2005, & we wear differently (still have no pics) but actually without corpse-paint. And I don't think we'll wear it anymore unless it's done professionally. For my part, I'm like "why not?" & also "a waste of time & energy".

But concerning the vision, I think we did right. You all seem to speak about love, love, love & love again. God is love, ok. But God is complete & He is also mentioned 234 times in the Bible that God is The Lord of Hosts. A God that send His people to war with His benediction. You want to be good-viewed by your non-christian friends, but we're not hear to joke with their anti-christian positions. We just don't want to be (even if I respect them as brothers in Christ) another Christian band that don't even include Jesus in their thankslist or don't even mention Jesus in their lyrics.
Christian bands are becoming lukewarm & it's becoming a danger. We're surely not the best of the Christians, but we are making huge efforts to grow up in our faith with Jesus. And it makes me sick when I see that bands wonder more about the "we play music & it's fun!" than "we live in the endtimes & still people have to know about Jesus before it is too late".

We're not liberal Christians. We believe the time of grace will soon end for a time of judgement & that now it's time to preach. I wonder if you really take the time to observe the prophecies, concerning Israel. Do you still read your Bible? The exile as well as the return of the modern Israel are prophetic matters. That will be the next subjects in our CD. It is maybe not a good sign for you to know, but we're in the last days. We have love for people but not for their pagan practices. We have friends that are really into satanic metal, & we had good talkings with them. I spoke a hard language with them, without any detours. I just remarked that they're in confusion so deep that hearing Christians speaking a message without compromise surprised them in good & they still exchange their phone numbers to meet again & speak about prophecies. Yeah men, the beginning of wisdom is God's fear! We cannot mock God.

The Bible says:
"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity" (Matthew 13:41)
We speak with a hard language because we want people to understand that Jesus isn't a solution between others, that it's not like going to the supermarket & chose like: "Mmh...will I chose Jesus or Buddah?"
It urges. What does God say in Isaiah 13:11-13?
"And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger. "
First you can understand that God begins His judgement (tsunami) & this is exactly how it has been written: the earth shall remove out of her place.
And it confirms the Book of Revelations 14:20:
"And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs."

Yes, a time will come when the human race will be rare. A time of judgement. And I think that if we have love for the lost we have to tell them about Jesus & that they cannot mock God. But no, it seems that today, Christians would like to have only fun & they don't understand that they have responsibilities & that our God is also a devouring fire.
It's equal to us if people don't realize. What we know is that lvoe cannot make the economy of truth. I know that it exists a huge difference between American Christians & European Christians. Europeans are more peace & love & Americans are more warrior-like who don't love that we make a mockery of God. Is it a hazard if most of the support we have is from the USA & South America? Yeah, South Americans know what it is to depend on God only & that's why their bands are more Christ-focused.

But here, we have all & we don't even know how precious it is to have the Bible. I'm not against love. I'm against dissimulated messages. We doubt about problems with the secular world. As much as we doubt about their scene. We don't listen to their bands & we mostly don't know what are the latest releases in that scene. We rebuke their metal. I'm just tired to see that Christian metal is becoming lukewarm with lyrics speaking also about women, about great trees in the forest, WE WANT CHRIST!

And concerning Bush, I don't know if you know that he is one of the rare Presidents who took so much position for Israel. He is anti-abortion, anti-homosexual marriages & yes, I believe that God have all powers under His hands. And according to the teaching tapes I receive from Christian Friends of Israel, the re-election of Bush is a second chance offered by God to the USA.

I am okay to answer all of your questions, but it seems that you mostly want ot excuse every action under the name of Grace. There is Grace, but only when there's repentance. That's what we preach!

God bless,
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Beitragvon Elon » Do 10.Mär 2005, 22:04

Hi Taanak

I agree with the most of your statements. I see it also. But the question is: When you scream in your mikrofon about Jesus, does the people understand that and realize that?

My opinion is, that it is very hard, to mission through music. When you talk with people, then you have to say them, which way is right.
But if you sing/scream, the people don't understand a word. You can scream Jesus loves you or Jesus hates you, the people did'nt realize the difference, because they don't understand it. An if they only read your lyrics, they mostly think: what a bullshit. Then it's often better, when you have lyrics, which animates you to think about.

But I find it very good, how radical you live your faith. Go on with our allmighty lord!!!!

ps: I got a few mp3s from Demoniciduth, and I like them very much.
I also enjoyed your gig at the EoR 04.

(sorry, my English isn't very good)
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Beitragvon Tinúviel » Fr 11.Mär 2005, 7:26

Elon hat geschrieben:But the question is: When you scream in your mikrofon about Jesus, does the people understand that and realize that?

don't misjudge the power of words!!! with your words you can influence the atmosphere even if there's nobody who understands any of your words. when you sing/growl/screem about jesus, you build an atmosphere that is oriented to him and then it's much easyer to talk about jesus with the guests after the gig. you don't even have to preach, just build a jesus atmosphere.
I have heard You calling my name
I have heard the song of love that You sing
So I will let You draw me out beyond the shore
Into Your grace
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Beitragvon Xerminator » Fr 11.Mär 2005, 18:32

it's getting multicultural once more :)

Taanak, I can understand your thoughts about the behaviour of some bands and I can share those... But I also think that the way you "represent" christianity is VERY important! I have many mates who have a negative image of christians due to their experiences... Still it's a difficult topic and I think in the end it depends on the band and it's believe in Jesus, not on their appearence...

About the "destructive" Tsunami... Daily theres the same amount of people dying due to lack of food! just wanted to say that...

And George W. Bush... I don't think that reducing the social system is a very christian behaviour. He's a president for the rich, and the poor are left behind... Thats my personal view from what i've experienced so far.

Anyway... I notice I made quiet a lot criticism, which was not intended since after all I also think that we christians need to support each other, and I have a huge joy about every band telling the message of god!
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Beitragvon Winterfrost » So 13.Mär 2005, 20:30

Thanks fpr taking the time, Taanak, to translate and to give a statement and tell us your point of view!
I have to agree at almost every point you said.

And to tell: Your new CD kicks ass, great stuff! I love it, also the songs sung in french is cool! Good job!
be blessed.
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Beitragvon archimedes » Mo 14.Mär 2005, 13:18

I also agree in wide parts to tanaaks post. still a few things might be important to be noticed furthermore:

As Christians we are warriors. That’s right! But too often we forget that we fight against spiritual powers not against men (e.g. eph 6). So: are we just posing, just wielding axes on a stage an supporting wars of men? or are we worshipping God on stage and praying constantly that strongholds will be torn down, that people understand who Jesus is and the Holy Spirit will be poured out into their hearts, so that lives will be changed?
(I think this is what I meant by naming our own band “heavenly soldiers”: Worshippers in front of the army of God like 2.chr. 20:20ff. - the Lord revealed his might!)

I know it’s hard not to become lukewarm as a Christian. Especially to seek acknowledgement of others. It’s hard to not to be understood by the world. (Torbjörn Weinsjö of Veni Domine told me a lot about that). But in some way we have to learn that fact. But where God is with us, at least a few people will understand: one by one.
So I think: never be indifferent about the Trinity in your lyrics! But let us not forget: It is never OUR lyrics that will touch people’s heart. It’s only God himself. We need prophetic, inspired lyrics of spirit filled bandmembers, that live relationships full of love. We need both: truth speaking lyrics and love. Only God can give us both! Let’s pray for that and bless all the Christian bands!!!

God bless you Tanaak – May he show you the right way!!!

p.s. by the way: what does demoniciduth mean? demonslaughtering?
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Beitragvon Winterfrost » Mo 14.Mär 2005, 20:14

archimedes hat geschrieben:So I think: never be indifferent about the Trinity in your lyrics! But let us not forget: It is never OUR lyrics that will touch people’s heart. It’s only God himself. We need prophetic, inspired lyrics of spirit filled bandmembers, that live relationships full of love. We need both: truth speaking lyrics and love. Only God can give us both! Let’s pray for that and bless all the Christian bands!!!

God bless you Tanaak – May he show you the right way!!!

Yes, that is true!
And, maybe, there are also different goals for bands. If one band has less "christian lyrics" God told them maybe so. I think it depends also on the calling for each band.

archimedes hat geschrieben:p.s. by the way: what does demoniciduth mean? demonslaughtering?


TELL US ABOUT THE NAME DEMONICIDUTH, WHY?

Ashtaroth-Karnaim: At start, we wanted the name Satanicide, but knowing that it was already attributed, we decided to search another name, and we found Demonicide. But we wanted a Black Metal name, so we found Demoniciduth, which means "demon-killers" ( Mark 16:17-18 ).

[taken from an interview by Metal 4 Christ (Brazil)]
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Beitragvon archimedes » Di 15.Mär 2005, 8:29

it seems that guessed right about the name - thanks be to my latin teacher in highschool :wink:
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Re: Demoniciduth

Beitragvon Elon » Di 27.Mär 2018, 10:16

2017 kam ihr Album "Enemy Of Satan" raus, einfach so zur Info.
Klingt richtig gut.
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Re: Demoniciduth

Beitragvon sworth » Do 29.Mär 2018, 22:05



Die Lyrics sind mir eine Spur zu plakativ. Das Spartanische der Musik gefällt mir grundsätzlich, aber ab und an hätte etwas Abwechslung sicher gut getan.

Btw. Quasi die Vorgängerband von Demoniciduth, Israel, hatte ja mal einen sexy Webauftritt.
Schnell! Hart! Tot! Ja, so muss es sein!
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Re: Demoniciduth

Beitragvon Antestor » Fr 30.Mär 2018, 8:58

Die Musik ist wirklich nicht schlecht! Wirkt so, als hätte sich in den letzten 15 Jahren nicht viel verändert bei denen ;)
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